CIS for subbies

CIS for subcontractors: the Reddit questions, answered

If you've searched “CIS subcontractor reddit”, you've hit the same threads — lads trying to work out their deductions, the right rate, and how to get the overpaid tax back at year-end. Here's the straight version.

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CIS trips up almost every new subcontractor. The contractor deducts 20% (or 30% if you’re not verified, 0% if you have gross status) from your labour before they pay you, sends it to HMRC, and you reconcile it at year-end — usually getting a chunk back because the deductions overshoot once your expenses and personal allowance are in.

The recurring pain in the threads: keeping track of every payment-and-deduction statement, and having clean numbers ready so the rebate isn’t a guessing game. Lose the statements and you’re leaving money with HMRC.

The questions that keep coming up

What rate should be deducted from me?

20% if you’re CIS-registered and verified, 30% if you’re not verified, or 0% if you hold gross payment status. If you’re being hit with 30%, getting registered and verified is the first win — it’s your money sitting with HMRC until year-end.

How do I keep track of CIS deductions?

You need every payment and deduction recorded — gross, deduction, net, tax month, per contractor. With TradesOffice you just text Amy “CIS invoice Barratt Homes £3,500 gross” and she creates the invoice, applies the right deduction rate, and logs gross/deduction/net automatically. No spreadsheet to keep.

Will it help me get my CIS rebate back?

It keeps your CIS deductions and your expenses in one clean record, so when your accountant does the return the deductions-suffered figure is already there — that’s what reduces your bill or triggers the refund. Nothing to dig out in April.

Is there an app that doesn’t need me to learn anything?

That’s the gap. TradesOffice runs in WhatsApp — save one contact, text like a mate. Invoices, expenses, mileage and CIS all captured as you work, MTD-categorised for your accountant. No app to download, no new number. £19.99/month, 14-day free trial, no card.

Does it replace my accountant?

No — it feeds them. You get clean, categorised records and a quarterly pack; they file. It’s the capture layer that stops the year-end shoebox.

Where it gets discussed: r/uktrades · r/Construction · r/UKPersonalFinance

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